<^glory^> we don't get more points, but we learn more Word - explain Paladin before I go. Mr Webster beside me doesn't have it in him paladin? you don't know the word paladin anyone who has played just ONE role playing game would know what a paladin is go play a role playing game they are a learning experience Hem: Even if that one role-playing game was FTP:2448? Paladin, Paladin, riding through the night... (definition coming...) <^glory^> a paladin is a kind of champion, isn't it? <^glory^> champion as in defender, advocate, etc ? <^glory^> a kind of knight? (kaniggit ? sorry, gratuitous Monty Python reference, please ignore) one learns all about myths and legends by playing rpgs a paladin is a knight but a holy knight err... FTL:2448 (been computing too long) special knight super do gooder can do no evil virtuous knight I still think it comes from the western in the 60's Um, only by the D&D definition of it. pal.a.din \'pal-d-n\ n [F, fr. It paladino, fr. ML palatinus courtier, fr. L, palace official - more at PALATINE 1: a champion of a medieval prince 2: an outstanding protagonist of a cause well most rpgs ive played pretty much kept to the theme of the paladin being good not just d&d I am a Paladin of ELO's music, maybe. which ive played very little of I feel like my iq went up 2 tonight but i have never heard of evil paladins in any game Hem: It'd just depend on your point of view... they are holy men <^glory^> kind of like the Knights Templar ? * Word_ is a paladin of human rights... <^glory^> Richard Boone (somebody had to say it) <^glory^> the few times I got to see Paladin (my parents were sleazy intellectual snobs who refused to house a TV) I liked it, because Paladin had a chess piece (a knight, what else?) on his calling card. I figured any cowboy who knew how to play chess must be pretty cool <^glory^> we're well on our way to a WordBot !!!! or DictBot we are? who is working on it glory? LexiBot <^glory^> dictibot, Lexibot, wordbot -- lots of possibilities <^glory^> so far, the human dictionary bots include Word, Gostak, Camly/NedVed and alonzo, I think we do need a dictonary bot * Word_ is now known as LexiBot Just /msg LexiBot {word} for definition... * Hemlock has been looking all over for a text file of websters dictionary but i can't find it <^glory^> yea, I prefer Webster's too <^glory^> dunno why, I've either assumed it's superior and I think I am, too, or else it's stubborn prejudice. probably the latter. i have to find a text file i found websters dictionary on the web but only searchable hypertext. first step to setting up a dictonarybot is to find that text file <^glory^> there must be textfiles in the source for a hypertext dictionary * LexiBot found Shakespeare, searchable by keyword, and Lewis Carrol, and Charles Dickens, and -- and -- ! goodnight all, remember, those who run from a fight live to run from another fight another day but those who fight ........ oh forget it. bye profound satchmo paladin - from the french word paladino, which is descended from the latin palatinus, meaning nothing more than "an officer of a palace" Fillyjonk: Great call. Thank you, LexiBot! evening, all im working on getting a dictionary bot set up Hemlock, that is an idea whose time has definately come. More power to ya! yes yes Webster is my *second* favorite dictionary. OED is my first love. However, it's enormous. <^glory^> sure and if I could afford one it'd be my favourite too perhaps Webster is more handy and immediately useful. * Fillyjonk likes Funk & Wagnall's dictionary. Hard to find tho. well if you can FIND a text file of the complete websters dictioary glory please let me know * teep just took her hair out of the braid and it's fluffy for a change. <^glory^> another question is *which* Webster's dictionary, Hemlock <^glory^> there's the collegiate, the unadbridged deluxe, and others which every you think is best the most extensive obviously collegiate is the one I have a copy of. What's the difference between the dictionary types? * Fillyjonk thinks The Dictionary Channel would be a cool addition to basic cable. :) <^glory^> fillyjonk :) <^glory^> "I was reading the dictionary. I thought it was a poem about everything." [Stephen Wright] <^glory^> I'm attached to a 1976 edition deluxe unabridged (the kind that needs its own table) ... there must be more recent editions For my money, anything that says "unabridged deluxe" has got to be a good thing o but the newer dictionaries have all the cool curse words in em Like anyone ever needs to look up cool curse words? What are we trying to encourage, exactly? Fillyjonk, I'm with you. I like dictionaries. <^glory^> well, it's 6.5 inches ... thick, I mean *grin* yeah, we hear you, ^glory^ <^glory^> I call it my two-handed dictionary ... <^glory^> teep :) grownups of the world, unite :) well glory let me know if you have better luck than i did cuz i was unable to retrieve anything from the web teep: Not necessarily - I would NOT want to get an unabridged (deluxe or otherwise) copy of the value of pi... Fillyjonk, it would fill your hard drive teep: it would fill the universe. It's a biggish number. <^glory^> indeed <^glory^> fillyjonk, did you ever read Sagan's novel Contact ? No, never read Contact. * teep has a copy of the novel Contact. isn't that the one with the nifty stuff about pi in it? <^glory^> yes, Pi has a significant role in it, that's why I asked :) I heard about the "message" in pi or something. The very concept is stupid (if that's what it is) <^glory^> it held my attention, stupid or not. It's fiction. <^glory^> fun, good nerdy fun, which is enough (by me) what with the circle graph thingie... very nice. Okay, so maybe not REALISTIC, but nifty Realism is for people who have small minds. glory: Check out "The Demon-Haunted World" though (also by Sagan)... I'd HIGHLY reccommend it... <^glory^> I will, fillyjonk, it's on my must-read list now whereas I have a mind that is practically open to the breezes of summer.... I think I've been reccomending it to almost everyone. I'll check it out, Fillyjonk. Keeping your brain open is a good thing. Keeping it so open that your sense of reality falls out is not necessarily... filly what about cramming it so full of information you don't know if you're coming or going? cano: it's a weird feeling, isn't it... like cramming for finals so much that you feel like your brain is full... filly yep...one way street to burn out have you a copy of the novel Contact intact? hem who? uh everyone Wow. My radio station is playing a song by the butthole surfers. I didn't think that they EVER got airtime. Just goes to show you. teep maybe that's a bad thing canozzi, well, it's interesting. They're not swearing, particularly cinnamon and sugar and softly spoken lies... you never know just how you look in other people's eyes teep deep canozzi, it's weird. other line.... "I can taste you on my lips and smell you on my clothes..." depends on how you hear that one, I think teep er - yeah sort of hypnotic, actually. But I think I like NIN better. hemlock I haven't heard of it hemlock what's the bottom line? money is almost always the bottom line teep I meant of the novel <^glory^> okey, there are three words in the English language ending in `-tact' -- contact, intact, and what's the third ? canozzi, it's a novel about this ship thingie that people land on (big ship) and explore and what they learn about the builders of it and stuff. The builders aren't readily apparent on the ship glory attact past tense of attack what nothing i never read Contact glory I give up wait a minute, glory ^glory^: Reading back, I'm pleasantly shocked. * LexiBot cracks yet another cold one. <^glory^> is that in response to the "has anyone else here seen The List of Adrian Messenger?" question I asked 2.5 hours ago ? <^glory^> oh, the -tact thing! that was a joke ... * LexiBot is now known as Word * Word lurches in and looks around self-consciously. * Word lurches back in and wonders what's been going on. * Word cracks yet another cool one. Woooooooops. dunno, ^glory^. Please enlighten me. <^glory^> (this situation's on the Nerd test, even -- "Have you ever told a joke which no one got? (part b) and then tried to explain it?") word, it works better if you don't shake 'em up before opening. tact, but it's the whole word. I don't know if that counts as an ending. glory that was a joke? how is this a joke? I am lost <^glory^> The List of Adrian Messenger was a B&W film, directed by John Huston, starred George C. Scott, quite good as a mystery but also distinguished by superstars in cameo roles (some in drag even), including Frank Sinatra, Kirk Douglas, Robert Mitchum, Burt Lancaster, Tony Curtis. Huston's young son had a big part in it, too, billed as Anthony Walter Huston. <^glory^> no, that's two separate threads <^glory^> the -tact one is only a joke to those who have been here when strangers have repeatedly dropped in on #mensa just to ask us about the -gry riddle ("three words ending in -gry" etc etc) abstract Woops. -tact <^glory^> and it was born (the joke, that is) in Hemlock's question about how many had copies of Contact intact ... <^glory^> believe me, I earned those points on the Nerdity Test ... it isn't for everyone I suppose=) what -gry one? Okay, I am stupid, but hey... * ^glory^: buries herself in a black hole so she won't have to follow this one up any further ask a simple question in order to raise oneself from the slime of ignorance, and this is what happens. it's enough to make one want to quit trying. * Word is now known as Sinatra What's up with you koo-koo babes? * Sinatra is now known as Word koo-koo? Hmmm. Okay, so I am not understanding squat tonight. * ^glory^: recommends The List of Adrian Messenger to everyone, before disappearing. Good characters, marvelous diction, rather absorbing story I know koo-koo-katchoo, from the beatles. Teep: I had a question for you, too, but I lost it... Like the walrus and the eggman * Word scrolls back... Whenever you remember, Word. Nope. Scrollback doesn't help. But, to change the subject, wouldn't mnemonic scroll-back be a great human feature? Just wondering. Very nice to dream about, Word... but really, I'm happier having things I said disappear into the firmament. Having them available for replay would suck. My friend, Linda ("Maddog") MacGregor, whom I've been friends with for about 18 years, remembers everything we ever did together. Like you say, teep, it can be a curse. On the other hand, she reminds me in detail -- with dates! -- of a lot of really good evenings. She's my chronicle. Word, a diary is easier and you don't have to feed it. I have a diary of my junior and senior years of highschool. Man, was I depressing. Teep: But I lost everything from my life pre-1984. Worse than a death in the family! Memories take on a new significance, once the cues are gone. Yikes, Word. I have a missing year (eighth grade... reason, parents got divorced. Everything is gone, including algebra, which I had to relearn in college) what happened in 1984 Word? Moved to Timmins, for my first newspaper job. Paid an extra month's rent, entrusted the place to my roommates... As soon as I was gone, Alco-Roommate arranged to have someone kick in a door, and to get police cars screaming in from the street, and also from the open park behind the place... Landlord seized life's belongings, Word was too young to know what to do, to get back all his family photos, stereo equipment, newspaper clippings, furniture... that's awful word :( Rhu: Seriously, it was like a death in the family, but worse -- unexpected. Heirlooms were lost. But Word is a tougher nut for it all. :) Word, that really bites. I am so sorry. Did you shoot the roomate? sounds like a really hard road, word i understand about losing heirlooms, etc No. The roommate was a victim, of sorts. He (19), used to get over-pissed and yell out to me as if I were his abusive father, who insisted he say "dobranoch" in Polish, instead of "goodnight, Dad. everyone's a victim, these days. anyone find a dictionary text file? LexiBot: Nobody's given him a try. Give him a word, and he'll give you a definition. <^glory^> most of us are lackadaisical procrastinators at heart, hem i no * Word is now known as LexiBot Thanks for spelling "lackadaisical" correctly! Hmmmm. Need some help, here. How many people would respond HONESTLY to an anonymous survey of how many your personal body count (# of people slept with) is up to? I am NOT TAKING SUCH A SURVEY. <^glory^> it would depend on my mood and what I thought of the survey, teep. I'd either tell the truth, lie, or or not respond me. I wanna know if people would lie. Just would you lie on such a survey. see, I hold to the view that people are basically honest and will tell the truth unless presented with a compelling reason to do otherwise. naw, there's lots of people out there who would lie just for the sake of lying ok teep, I wouldn't lie on such a survey well, I was just wondering, is all. How do surveyers know that their data is any good? Just in general for surveys. <^glory^> well, as my father (operations research [including statistics] guy) said, "we assume the veracity of the respondents" ... OR is a science for the seriously twisted. <^glory^> ;) <^glory^> NICHOLS & MAY ON KQED TONIGHT AT 10:30 !!!!!!! Nichols and May? ???? glad for you ^glory^, even though I have no idea why you are so happy. <^glory^> Mike Nichols and Elaine May, a comedy team in the 1960s, among the founders of Second City <^glory^> they were a vital influence on Monty Python <^glory^> Nichols is now a film director, and May is a power in the arts/cinema/etc scene in Manhattan <^glory^> interesting, some of these hugs come with sharp objects imbedded, others are infested with small insects ... yes, my ode to crime converging with nature it's tough love, ^glory^ <^glory^> either that, or a new mugging strategy ;) s&m has come to icons? yes I did get one wallet and a pair of sunglasses teep LOL! muffie01, then there has been some profit in the evening? That is good to hear. yes well leverage where you can I scored 120 on the online test on the Mensa page is that good ? * LexiBot lurches back in and wonders what's been going on. * rhuberry hands LexiBot a hot cup of strong coffee Lexibot define scurrilous <^glory^> hemlock looked up scurrilous a few nights back, so tread carefully ;) :) Synth, it's above average. Above average is good. However, the short tests are really not as accurate as the individually administered, somewhat longer tests. on my way to looking up scurrilous i found the word sedulous, another good word what's sedulous mean Hem? what's the mensapage best test score? * LexiBot is now known as Word thanks teep, so maybe I should take better tests then huh ? Synth, it is more likely to give you a better idea of how you do on IQ tests. besides, I like IQ tests. they're kind of fun. cool sedulous: working hard and steadily; diligent yeah I liked those picture matching things The good word for today is: Paladin heres a good one sedition: the stirring up of discontent, resistance, or rebellion against the government in power * teep knows sedition. * Word is seditious. You take a mortal man, put him in control, watch him become a god, watch people's heads a roll * ^glory^ used to be seditious <^glory^> I outgrew it * rhuberry practices sedition regularly :) megadeth oh yeah ^glory^: And then, what? <^glory^> then I divorced my first husband, word ;) and swore off marriage forever (`forever' turned out to be approximately 21 years) nice to know how long forever is. Now i know... * Word is still in "forever". Is not sure how long it's gonna be. I love that Line Hemlock it is so appropriate sometimes everyone gets divorced i swear not me Second marriages are generally better. show me a man who has never been divorced and i will show you a man who has never been married good one, Hemlock <^glory^> my husband's never been divorced, hemlock <^glory^> and he's very much married. :) an anomoly <^glory^> an outlier, statistically speaking ;) Hemlock - you're getting very pessimistic :) ya i no but its true i think <^glory^> I think it's a good first line in a comedy routine about marriage and divorce, hemlock Hemlock, what accounts for this pessimism? Hopefully not my dear brother. no we were talking about the longevity of comtemporary marriges before i had a discussion with your brother yeah let me write it down ill have to remember that 1 <^glory^> I sent that one in for the mensabot homepage, hem <^glory^> I don't know if JP put it up yet or not o great im adding it to the list of quotes i made up it Some marriages work. it's already up there glory - it's a great discussion, btw ;) <^glory^> I liked it -- widely divergent opinions with little or no animosity let me go c I saw a thing on the news the other day that research found married men lived longer than unmarried men. Also, interestingly, unmarried women lived longer than married wome. women.